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How to Avoid the Risk of Working Too Long

James · December 21, 2021 · Leave a Comment

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Our topic on this episode of the Ready for Retirement podcast is about how you can avoid the risk of working too long.

Questions answered: How can I make sure I don’t work longer than I need to? What strategies can I implement to ensure I create my ideal retirement? What is the best strategy for your individual situation? 

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Key Points

  • How can I ensure I don’t outlive my money?
    • Most concerns surround ensuring you don’t outlive your money, but we don’t want to just stop there.
    • Oftentimes having a strategy in place can tell you this, but what about the experiences along the way?
    • How can you make sure you don’t work too long and sacrifice what’s most important to you today?
  • “We have two lives, and the second begins when we realize we only have one”.
    • Financial planning is to ensure we are supporting the lifestyle we want to do on the non-financial side.
    • Your financial plan should be rooted in what a successful life looks like to you.
      • Should I keep working? Should I keep saving?
      • At what point am I sacrificing the best years of my life?
  • Listener Question Information
    • $1.75M in retirement assets.
      • $1.3M in a 403(b)
      • $450k in a lump-sum when retiring (can rollover into an IRA)
      • Pension: $1,250/month
        • $900/month
        • $350/month
        • We don’t know when these begin or if they’re in place.
      • Social Security
        • $3,140/month
      • Cash
        • $180,000 ($250k in 3 years)
          • Currently saving ~ $2,000/month
        • $36k from PTO upon retirement
    • The goal isn’t simply to be okay, but to understand if she can retire today and not work at the expense of what’s most important to her.
  • What We Don’t Know
    • We don’t know the listener’s expenses.
    • Where will income come from? How can I recreate that paycheck?
    • How much can you create with the various income sources we have?
  • Income in Retirement
    • What can your investments create?
      • Assuming $2M in investments.
      • 4% Rule (Guyton’s Guardrails)
        • Traditional investments begin by using the 4% rule and be reasonably assured your portfolio will last for 30+ years.
        • If we apply this rule, that’s $80,000/year that can be created when reviewing this framework.
      • Alternative Approach
        • If you adjust your investment strategy and follow certain guidelines, there’s reason to believe you can spend more (5.2% – 6%) and be reasonably assured you will have income for 40+ years.
          • This is assuming invested appropriately, but as a starting point, this can generate ~$110,000/year.
      • I am going to assume $100,000/year for simplicity sake.
  • Additional Income
    • Of the $1,250/month from pension income, this $100,000 (investment income) in addition to ~$15,000 of pension income is $115,000/year.
    • $37,000/year from Social Security income (age 67).
      • Before taxes, $152,000/year can be a reasonable assumption of what can be spent in retirement for 30 + years (when invested appropriately and following certain rules).
  • What won’t I have in retirement?
    • If your income is $180,000 today, let’s remove certain items from your income that won’t be there in retirement.
      • You’re no longer saving $25,000/year.
      • Assuming you’ll pay $30,000/year less in taxes today.
      • You’re no longer maxing out your 403(b) of $26,000/year.
        • $99,000 is how much you actually need to live the same lifestyle you’re living today. 
        • If you have $152,000 coming in from Social Security, Pension, Investments, etc. it appears you can certainly retire and maintain your standard of living.
  • What Doesn’t This Factor?
    • What if you retire early? Where does income come before the pension begins?
    • Do we need to add on medical expenses? 
    • What about extra travel? What does an ideal travel trip look like to you?
    • Are there children you’re taking care of financially?
  • Additional Considerations
    • Housing: Do you have a mortgage that will go away in the future?
      • You may be able to spend more today if certain expenses are no longer here in retirement.
    • Social Security: When does it make most sense to collect?
    • Pensions: Are my pensions adjusted for inflation?
    • Taxes: What income amount is coming in so I can pay taxes and maintain my desired standard of living?
    • Investment Strategy: How are your investments allocated in retirement? Are you invested in the right way for your individual needs?
      • The temptation is to do what’s worked well recently, but too often we only focus on this part of the market.
    • Tax Strategy:
      • Does it make sense to implement Roth Conversions?
      • Do you have the resources to allow you to pull funds from the most tax-efficient accounts?
    • How can the Rule of 55 be best applied to your current employment?
  • Final Question: To what extent do I want to keep saving and to what extent have I already done enough to have the comfortable retirement that I want to have?

Timestamps

1:31 – Kind Reviews

4:29 – Non-Financial Side of Finance

8:25 – Listener Question’s Information

9:46 – When To Stop Saving?

13:42 – Understanding Your Portfolio Income (Maximizing Income)

16:17 – Recreating Your Paycheck

18:56  – What Will Go Away In Retirement

20:19 – The Retirement Smile

21:19 – Additional Retirement Considerations

27:03 – Negative Compounding

30:21 – Aligning Your Investments With Your Financial Goals

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